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===Cortical midshaft analysis with moment of inertia calculation=== This explains what happens when you type <pre> $ midshaft ! or $ eval_midshaft </pre> Draw a rough contour around your slices: open the Contouring Sub-window, double-click on the big image, and it automatically finds the best contour. Then click on 'Selection' 'Forwards', then 'Iterate Forwards'. Then 'cancel' the contouring sub-window, and start the 3D evaluation. Make sure you have already set the correct threshold, sigma, support in file <pre>DISK2:[MICROCT.EVAL]IPL_FIXED_BATCH_MIDSHAFT.COM</pre> When you type <pre>$ show queue</pre> you should find a job called UCT_EVALUATION_MIDSHAFT and a SYS$SCRATCH:*_MIDSHAFT_*.LOG The IPL_FIXED_BATCH_MIDSHAFT.COM by default does not calculate the direct measurement results because you must have many more than 20 slices for these to be valid. You can uncomment these parts of the file if you contoured the whole stack (i.e., stack thickness is >> than cortex thickness). TILDE: Note that you will see lots of tildes (~) on the result sheets. This is to tell you that, if the measurements were trabecular bone, those values would only be approximate. But now for the cortex, they are actually correct! (see below for more explanation about this) I would now use the tildes to check the 'excel' table that the operator has taken the correct script for the trab. or cort. evaluations for the respective measurements! So what's the advantage of all this? Now, also VOX-TV is correct! So VOX-TV is the whole area, VOX-BV the doughnut, so TV - BV is the marrow area! And still, TRI-Tb.Th is the cortical thickness (TRI-TV is NOT correct, because the .gobj feature was turned off). I say 'area' above: depending on how many slices one individual scan has, VOX-BV (and VOX-TV) might be different for different scans, so you will HAVE to convert the volumes to area again: <pre> volume equals area times height --> Bone Area = VOX-BV / height = BV / (dim.z * el_size_mm.z) </pre> and same for Total area, of course :-) POROSITY: If you want porosity of the bone itself draw two contours: one around, counter-clockwise, on on the inside, clock-wise (thus a 'negative', excluding contour). Now, TV will be just that ring area, BV will be the bone within that ring area, and BV/TV will be 1 - porosity, thus BV/TV 94% means 6% porosity. METAPHYSIS: Application of this script to metaphysis scan (with trab. in middle): <pre> $ midshaft </pre> Draw one contour around the cortex, and in the same slices, a NEGATIVE contour on the inside (CW contour) to exclude the trabecular bone. You may potentially work with the BP (break-point) system to be able to morph the negative contours, even though there is already an 'outer' contour around the bone in every slice. Start 3D eval, read out the data-base with <code>$ uct_list</code>. NOTE: You CANNOT give the .gobj a special name such as c0001234_cortex.gobj if you are using the automatic evaluation button on UCT_EVALUATION. Only after the eval (or midshaft eval) has finished, you may copy it to a more meaningful name, but all of the evaluations are just taking the STANDARD gobj name! Afterwards (after renaming or copying the _seg.aim to _cortex.aim, and .gobj to _cortex.gobj), you may want to start the very normal eval with normal (inner) contours to evaluate the trabecular compartement. <pre> Remember: the values in our 3D result database then are OVERWRITTEN. </pre> If you have a large study, I would recommend to run the $ midshaft for ALL samples, <code>$ uct_list</code> to e.g. <code>sys$scratch:mystudy_cortex.txt</code>, rename/copy gobj and seg for all, and THEN run the trabecular evaluation for all samples. <code>$ uct_list</code> and you have two nice complete excel sheets. NOTE ON PLATE MODEL: More explanations of why the plate model is correct Assume a ring (cortex). <pre> Area = thickness * 'middle line'. 'middle line' = average of outer and inner circumference --> 'middle line' = 0.5 * 'bone surface' --> thickness = bone volume * 2 / bone surface. </pre> And this is nothing else but the 'plate model' formula for Tb.Th! NORMAL TRABECULAR EVALUATION? And why not just run the 'normal trabecular eval'? Because in the 'normal' TRI calculation, we are EXCLUDING all surfaces that are created artificially by a gobj line that cuts through a trabecula. However, for the midshaft, this means the whole outer (or even inner, if also inner contour is there) is SUPPRESSED, because it is touching the gobj line. So this is where that midshaft script comes in: it turns off that suppression. MORE EXPLANATIONS: Why the direct DT-Tb.Th* is NOT correct for a scan with just 12 slices. If we fill the structure with spheres, those spheres should be bounded by the width of the cortex, not just by the fact that we only have 12 slices (and even more so, we are always doing 'aim box' suppression with the spheres) if a sphere touches the boundary of the aim box, it is suppressed! So this is quite crucial for Tb.Sp and Tb.N. To get meaningful Tb.Sp, you would need a LOT of slices. Also, then, you cannot have the inner contour - otherwise the negative inner contour will delete the Tb.Sp. spheres. If you have enough slices, you may opt to turn the <code>/dt_object</code> on again in the midshaft script (second half). Then DT-Tb.Th* and TRI-Tb.Th just have a slightly different behaviour if there are little pores within the cortex: <pre> TRI: the little pore just adds a little BS, thus the influence is not that big. DT: the little pore cuts the thickness sphere in half, thus at that location, the thickness is halved. </pre> MEAN1 and MEAN2: The script is also calculating Mean1 and Mean2 now. <pre> Mean1: 'apparent' density, average over whole TV Mean2: 'tissue' density: average over what was segmented as bone only. </pre> These mean values will be in mg HA/ccm if you have the calibration option for bone density installed (and activated for those scans). Remember: the bone has to have some soft-tissue (or equivalent) on the inside, and preferably also on the outside then. [[Image:Redirect.jpg|15px]] [[#top|''Return to Contents'']] or [[Main_Page|''Return to Main Page'']]
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